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Wild Hogs (2007)

bubulIn this movie, set in 2007, late in the second GWB term, which I watched at 1.25% speed in the bath, three craven, late-career, white leading men from 70s, 80s, or 90s Hollywood who really seem to need irl paychecks go on a movie motorcycle trip from Cleveland to Venice Beach with their mutual friend Martin Lawrence. They call their movie friend group, which finds its primary expression in weekend rides, “the Wild Hogs.”

Eventually the Hogs run into Ray Liotta in New Mexico. Ray Liotta is the leader of a “real” bike gang, the Del Fuegos, founded by his father, Henry Fonda (Boomer pausing the movie screen to gesticulate and exclaim: “it’s an Easy Rider reference!! I got the reference!!”). Liotta gets mad that the Wild Hogs are poseurs, and steals one of their motorcycles to “teach them a lesson,” which in turn leads to the destruction of his biker bar, creating beef. Then the Del Fuegos and the Wild Hogs spend acts two and three figuring out who’s actually authentic/who’s actually a man via bluster and violence in a town that’s having a chili competition. It blows over when Henry Fonda eventually shows up to chide Ray Liotta, telling him the bar was “a shithole” (Trump vox) and that he made a ton of money on insurance when it burned down. Ray Liotta says “Sorry pop,” and that’s it. The Wild Hogs prove they are the “real men” and finish the ride to Venice Beach, where Gen X and early Millenial women in bikinis smile at them and wave. Over the end credits, Ray Liotta’s bar is rebuilt by “Extreme Makeover Home Edition” into something that looks like a Guy Fierri restaurant or something.

The other Hogs are William H (“Hilliam”) Macy, John Travolta, and Tim Allen. Macy is sort of the central character; he plays “a computer programmer” who is “afraid to talk to women.” He is introduced in a cafe, where he is using a desktop implementation of Siri called “Mac,” via an open interface that looks something like Audacity. When he tries to seem like a cool computer guy, it misunderstands his command to “open Internet” and searches for “alternative sex,” immediately opening a million “popups” for things like “kinky granny” sites, which all play sound. As he struggles to close the popups, he spills coffee on his computer, which resembles a gray-bodied plastic 2003 HP Pavilion (not the aluminum-bodied Powerbook G4, and certainly not a 2007 white MacBook). The coffee spill causes his computer to spark and emit smoke; everyone in the cafe is disgusted at the display. Later, in his enthusiasm for the bike trip, he gets a bicep “tat” of the Apple rainbow logo. The joke is that Macy doesn’t understand that the rainbow is a symbol of gay pride, and that the Apple logo is not a tough enough tattoo for a biker to have; it’s that kind of movie. And the whole thing also just rings completely false because the rainbow logo was retired in 1998.

Macy’s character is portrayed as earnest, loving, and naive. He admires his male friends, and is on a quest for Maleness via getting laid not unlike Chris Elliot’s in Cabin Boy. (At the time I watched this, Macy was embroiled in the celebrity pay-to-play “college admissions scandal,” which felt cartoonishly appropriate to his presence in this movie.) Meanwhile, Travolta plays the group asshole, and goes all-in on straight-ahead, “no homo” bro masculinity, played with zero irony for laughs. Travolta repeatedly dismisses Macy’s naive comfort with his own body and earnest male admiration for his friends in homophobic terms. There’s even a lengthy interlude in Act 1 with a gay motorcycle cop (played by character actor John C. McGinley (Point Break)) who keeps trying to get the Hogs to have an orgy, and they have to figure out how to escape without appearing not-gay, so as not to rouse the ire of law enforcement and get a ticket. The whole thing is about as endless-feeling and lurid as Jack Nicholson in the dentist’s chair in the OG Little Shop of Horrors (1960).

That Ray Liotta’s bar is remodeled from “a shithole” into something completely plastic-looking by an HGTV show is weirdly descriptive of this entire movie’s thing: that artificial suburban consumer reality is ultimately the measure of what’s right, manly, and good. Ray Liotta reenters this reality and signals his true beta status by crying tears of joy; he and his criminal biker gang were cowardly lions after all. And the Wild Hogs were right to be prepared to stand up to them in violent conflict all along: that’s what “real men” do.

Is this convincing to anyone? Who does this fantasy belong to? Does anyone watching the movie actually think the bar is better off after this weird renovation? Do they believe that either model of “the biker” depicted here is somehow “authentic?” Do they believe that any of these men are “real men?”

The last thing I wanna say here is that Davey and I are originally acquainted from being “noise babies” in Philly who also played board games, but we got to know each other by doing a low-level east coast tour together. I had to get out of bed to check if that tour was in 2007, and whether we were plausibly on the road ourselves while the Wild Hogs were fighting Ray Liotta, but it was in 2008. Still, pretty tragic to think that this is the “road movie” we’re left with to describe this time.


harmsFour middle-aged friends hit the road on their motorcycles to rediscover themselves and maybe America.  This is the base outline for Wild Hogs a movie made in the waning years of the Bush administration, right before things got inconceivably weird for the baby boomers.  I’d heard Wild Hogs was something in the vein of Grown Ups 2, a film equal parts psychotically banal and malevolent. While it does share those qualities it doesn’t possess that film’s sheer volume of incoherent bad vibes, leaving it a mere pretender to the crown of that brand of psychedelically-bleak Americana.  So while I mentally group Grown Ups 2 in with Lars Von Trier and similar punishers, Wild Hogs I found more akin to something like Sixteen Candles; a middling comedy with toxic overtones that get more pronounced and poisonous over time. The movie’s only saving grace is to witness its obsessive focus, with every joke and plot development all stemming from the question of “How to be a Man.”

Wild Hogs believes men should be devoted to one another entirely, but express affection for each other sparingly. The two most common responses for those who break discipline and cross these boundaries is derision or violence.  The movie posits one other notable response, typified by its “gay biker cop.” This character’s sole function is to appear whenever our crew of “normal men” get anywhere close to being unguarded with one another. It’s one of Wild Hogs’s wilder fantasies, that a gay authority figure will show up and try to hang out with you and your friends whenever you stray the slightest amount from violently rigid heteronormativity. But there’s something there: the looks of disgust mixed with terror on our heroes faces really capture the white baby boomer fear of marginalized groups attaining authority over them.

I should note here that Martin Lawrence is also a Wild Hog, which to some folks might blow my white boomer thesis out of the water.  There is one reference in the film to him being black, which is William Macy’s character saying that the only thing he could think of was “black jokes” when he was trying to talk to a girl he had a crush on.  The point Wild Hogs makes here, about how racism can be fueled by male fragility, and how a veneer of equanimity will be suspended for any reason, is real insofar as this mindset goes. No one else calls Macy out when he says this, despite dogging him every chance they get for the rest of the movie.  So this isn’t really Lawrence’s movie, and although he’s a part of the gang, the fact that he’s black puts him socially below William Macy’s motorcycle-crashing, accidental-porn-watching fool in terms of worth to the group. 

This idea of openness and comfort being the enemy of discipline which in turn would disrupt a rigid hierarchy enforced by derision and violence is Wild Hogs and the at-large baby boomer take on masculinity in a nutshell. While you can‘t entirely blame an entire generation raised by soldiers (many of whom fought in a war themselves) for feeling that being a man means being a part of an army engaged in an endless war against everything else, it is possible to reject this idea… and many have. However Wild Hogs emphatically does not.  

Luckily we don’t have to subsist on a world filled with Wild Hogs insights alone. While arguably every year in film can be looked at in terms of how it represents a shift in the contours of masculinity, 2007 has it very much on its mind.  There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men both come out, and both interrogate the consequences of this mindset of endless war to different ends. 2007 was also the year that Superbad was released, written by two millennial men, and ending with the two male leads gazing into each others eyes in bed and telling each other that they love each other. At the end of Wild Hogs the gang regained their manhood, but outside the film, what that meant became less valuable and more unrelatable and pointless with every passing year since.

Twenty movies Mandy and Davey can watch together

We might be two peas in a pod but me and Mandy have basically zero crossover as far as entertainment choices go.  Nonetheless, through painstaking research we’ve found 20-odd movies that we both like. Enjoy!

Clueless

Mandy – Davey likes this movie because of the skaters and political activists, I like this movie for the humor and style.

Davey – Great movie that I immediately forget everything about as soon as I watch it.  Not sure exactly why this happens but I’ve seen it at least four times since it came out, always enjoyed it but can’t for the life of me explain what happens in it. Anyways, looking forward to watching this movie again for the first time!

Eighth Grade

Mandy – This is probably one of my favorite movies of the last year. I cried during this movie because boys are gross and stink 🙁

Davey – Watched this again recently and liked it as much as the first time.  A unique movie about a painful period of life that’s treated with the dignity it doesn’t usually get.  Found it quietly devastating that every time the movie’s plot pivots, it’s on a small act of kindness.

My Best Friend’s Wedding

Mandy –  My all-time favorite scene in a movie is the dinner scene where everyone sings “Say a Little Prayer”. Everything I do is inspired by it and I hope that explains who I am.

Davey  – Mandy showed me this for our mandatory Feb Rom Com and I loved it.  Julia Roberts flexes reality in this one, playing a character who is on paper so completely unlikable but that you can’t take your eyes off of or stop rooting for.  Say a little prayer scene is incredible and was used to great effect to pump people to great effect before a party recently. Still thinking about the background kids singing voices full of helium.

Edge of seventeen

Mandy – I deep and loud cried through about a quarter of this movie. Coming of age, mother/daughter conflict movies always really kill me. I can’t tell if Davey enjoyed the movie or my psychotic laugh crying more.

Davey – Very good and watchable while still being weirdly devastating. Hailee Steinfeld’s scenes with Woody Harrelson are incredible, will write a little more about it later, but highly recommended.

Dazed and confused

Mandy – I’ve probably watched this movie at least 20 times. It was my favorite movie as an up and coming alternative youth-child and is probably still one of my favorites.  My favorite character is Slater and Davey’s is Wooderson.

Davey – Technically speaking my favorite character is Darla, but Wooderson is iconic and a close second.  Probably the biggest crossover for us, a movie I also watched many many times in high school and based on recent watches will continue to watch for the rest of my life.  A perfect prism of teenage years that shifts in meaning based on how old you are when you watch. That Linklater could make a 20+ character mini story formatted movie so enjoyable for so many people for so long is a towering achievement.  One of the greatest of all time.

Inside out

Mandy – Davey and I saw this in theaters three times. I cry every time and feel this message is important for all. 🙂

Davey – We could probably use more movies that are overtly about emotional development, the trick is actually coming up with a good premise for one.   This one both did that and made a very good movie out of it.

Booksmart

Mandy – Booksmart was an effortlessly funny movie about 2 cute friends. Seems like the kind of movie you could watch no matter the mood or weather.

Davey – Super funny with a lot of great performances that was woke in a way that didn’t make me feel like I was being pandered to.  Exceedingly breezy, would also basically watch anytime.

A Simple Favor

Mandy – I think i’ll probably elaborate on this at a later date, but this movie really messed with my head in a lot of ways. I recommend watching the pilot or whole Gossip Girls series before seeing this movie, as it does a great job following Serena Vanderwoodsen after her time as a NY socialite and on into her life as a psychotic suburban mom. It’s not really about Serena, but played by the same actress basically acting as Serena because she probably only has one character she can act as. A simple woman in A Simple Favor.

Davey – Me and Tom are gonna write about this coming up so gonna have to keep my powder dry for this bad boi.

Jennifer’s Body

Mandy – This movie rocks the house down and is basically an anthem for women of the world which is chill and I respect.

Davey – Mandy’s mandatory Oct scary movie from last year, been a while since I’ve seen but a really unique and good horror film that was ahead of its time.  Started my reevaluation of Diablo Cody who has another entry on this list.

The Witch

Mandy – This was Davey’s choice for my one scary movie a year at Halloween. It made me really sad and anxious a lot of the time, but an overall success. Would watch again. The goat is weird.

Davey – Another annual Mandy Oct Scary entry, love the puritan vibe, love the sexual politics, love black Phillip.  Works on a ton of different levels.

Step up

Mandy – This movie also rocks the house down. A thing I love is seeing Channing Tatum dance. He’s incredible. Gifted.  

Davey – Channing Tatum is a bad boy from Baltimore on the wrong side of the tracks but Jenna Dewan is a good girl from Baltimore on the right side of the tracks!  Luckily for us they will bridge their differences, through dance. Way better than it has any right being, super tight and fun film with fun characters, actual stakes, and awesome dancing.  

Magic Mike

Mandy- Davey and I have seen this at least 3 times together. Each time with a different group of my girl friends. I screamed and laughed maniacally every single time.

Davey – Easily one of the funnest movies to watch with any group of people who enjoy the male bod.  Put this sucker on and watch the roof get blown off. Also has a lot of Soderbergh’s touches which muddies the waters on the kind of movie it is in a really interesting way.  

Grown ups 2

Mandy – I can’t tell you how many times we saw this one when it was in theaters. Davey talked about it for about three months until I told him I’d had enough and to please stop. I think it may be time to re-watch.

Davey – The first time I saw Grown Ups 2 was on an airplane.  I was watching it with the sound off, but got so curious that I got a pair of headphones to finish it.  I spent several days of that trip trying to explain what happened in it to my brother who was very patient and kind.  When I got home we went to see it at the discount theatre because I needed to verify that it wasn’t a mirage, that what seemed to be happening in this film was actually happening.  It’s since become something of a touchstone for a particular kind of malevolent psychedelic American energy in film. Impossible to describe, must be experienced.

Scott Pilgrim

Mandy – A solid movie about a weiner dude and his relationship issues. If you like nerdy things and computer music, you should watch this. Personally, I could watch anytime.

Davey – Stylistically undeniable but I also think that the actual storyline is deeply underrated and generally misunderstood.  I’d also watch pretty much whenever, deeply enjoyable movie.

Coco

Mandy- This movie made me blubber cry. A beautiful message about keeping people’s memory alive in any way possible and how it impacts their presence on this earth. I have applied this message to my simple life many times.

Davey – A deeply nuanced film about death, complete with practical grieving advice.  Marketed towards kids which is depressing but still important tools for everyone to have.  I honestly get sad thinking about this movie but have been considering watching again.

O Brother Where Art Thou

Mandy – Love this movie and the soundtrack. Didn’t like it as a teen, but now that I’m matured, I enjoy. I think George Clooney has a nice vibe and i like that he’s an escaped bad boy.

Davey – Watched a bunch as a kid, prob not top five or even top ten Coen but still mad good.  Very nice specimen of the Coen screwball style.

Cloud atlas

Mandy –  I’ve seen this movie twice and would watch it a third time even though it’s four hours and extremely confusing. I like the way Tom Hanks talks 🙂

Davey – Watching this movie is like seeing someone dunk from half court and shattering the backboard while still somehow missing the basket. There are scenes where they’re cutting through time and space and you’re experiencing several different climaxes to several different stories all at the same time, which is thrilling and befuddling. Doesn’t always work but still an unbelievable experience and a must if you like movies.

Girls trip  

Mandy – The other best movie I saw this year. I’ve watched this many times with various girl friends and every time we’ve laughed and screamed maniacally. If you want to know how I like to party, watch this movie.

Davey – Hell yeah this movie rules.  Despite the popular myth, I introduced Mandy to this one. The first time we watched, in an act of defiance she immediately fell asleep, only to be woken up 20 minutes later by me and Chrissy laughing our damn heads off.

I Love You Man  

Mandy – This movie makes us think of our friends, Ren and Eric who are endlessly in love. A feel-good movie about men who like each other and aren’t afraid of showing emotion. A rarity.

Davey – Very beautiful and sweet film that is also very funny.  Makes me feel good and gives me hope.

Step Brothers

Mandy – This is another movie that I have a love/hate relationship with because of Davey. When he watches this movie he laughs so loud that i can’t concentrate. I do enjoy the movie though when he can keep it together and secretly it makes me happy to see husband laugh and smile 🙂

Davey – Probably the best movie made about what it’s like to be a man.

Madagascar 3

Mandy – A film that really captures all the beautiful things in this world. I also love Andrea Bocelli and the scene where the animal is singing.

Davey – This movie is good as hell, my boy Noah Baumbach helped write it and it’s got the second best use of Andrea Bocelli of all time (First is in Step Brothers).  The ones got some serious zip, don’t sleep on it.

Tully

Mandy – The only movie I’ve ever seen about post-partum depression and mania. This movie really fucked me up emotionally which I love lol.

Davey – A great movie about post-partum, goes a lot of places you don’t normally see touched on in a film.  Does a really nice job of being non-literal and actually taking advantage of the fact that it’s a movie to help tell its story.  Has a wonderful and strange ending.

Yes, Technically there are 22 but we are not sticklers for the rules or symbols and meaning and we like a nice round number.